What the Spaniards say about Russians and Russia. Emigrants about Russophobia and the attitude of local residents towards Russians

Hello everyone, my name is Dasha Mendez. And now I will answer your questions in contact. I have a group in contact, and there I sometimes make a post, for example: "Now I will answer your questions, and this Tuesday I will shoot a video." And people ask questions that they would like very much to ask from latest news... And here I have 21 questions. Let's try to answer them. Andrey Bobrov asks: "How not to go crazy in the constant heat in Murcia?" How not to go crazy? - The answer is simple. I have air conditioning, and constantly air conditioning, that is, from 9 am to 9 pm, at least air conditioners are needed for July and August. In the rest of the months, like June and September, it is possible from 11 am and at 8 pm it can already be turned off. Because the coolness comes, and if you open all the windows so that there is a draft, then yes. And so, only with air conditioning, I try not to go out during the day. If I have something to do, I have to do something. Then you need to take a cap and 50 protection. It is very easy for Russians, Ukrainians, who have light skin, to burn out. 20 minutes and that's it. Even the Spaniards say it's easy. And only with air conditioning. If without him, then I do not know. We have air conditioning, but not in all houses. I have no idea how people live. I have no idea how people in Spain live without air conditioning.

"How do the Spaniards relate to the Russians?" You can make a whole video about this. I would like to tell you about some aspects. The Spaniards are okay, they are very friendly. And it will not happen that if somewhere they meet: "Oh, where are you from?" “I’m Russian”, - “Oh, are you Russian or what?”. No, of course it won't. They: "Oh, yes?", I also say: "I'm from Siberia," - "Oh, it's very cold there!" That is, they do not know that Siberia is big. And let's say, in Kemerovo in summer it is very warm and very hot. This summer I call my family, they say: “My God, this is such a heat. Very high temperatures, this has not happened for a long time and the tomatoes are withering. " Kidding. Interesting moment... The Spaniards in their entire history here, when the Ukraine-Russia conflict began, no one ever told me anything at all to me. And I thought that it really is that way, and they have a siesta fiesta, and they don't care what happens where. The war is going on not only in Ukraine. Let's say in Africa or some Arab countries, something goes, the Spaniards care more about themselves. Everything is not so good in Spain now to think about other countries. Therefore, they concentrate more on their problems. They also have corruption, they have a crisis, they have unemployment, young people drink. They also have problems, and I thought that really, no one was saying anything.

But I have friends here from Ukraine and one girl told me that there is a Spanish company in Murcia, where a Russian was fired for being Russian. I don't know how true this is. If you have any stories, write me in the comments, I would like to read. It was so unpleasant for me not to understand. Besides, this person is a programmer, what does he have to do with the war in general, and, of course, it was unpleasant for me to know that. They say there is such a thing. She said that Ukrainians really do support in terms of patting on the shoulder and saying, "Yes, this is a bad situation." I don’t know, I can’t say anything about it, who is right and who is wrong.

Next question. “The situation with migrants from Africa? Everywhere they write only about Italy, basically, about Spain they are silent. ... Is there an influx? " Highly correct question, very interesting. Because not many people know that Spain has not only a peninsula, but also islands. But there is still a part of the territory of Spain in Africa. Not everyone knows about this, the Spaniards understand, but the Russians, I tell someone, they: "Wow, is it true?" How do migrants from Africa do? I will exaggerate, of course. They throw themselves over this wall and are already in Spain. They say: "I don't have a passport, I don't know where I came from, I don't know anything at all." And they begin to give humanitarian aid, then they try to cross the sea through loopholes and end up on the very territory of Spain. Since they are already protected by Spain, since the European Union is really very loyal, tolerant of emigrants, because they are not shot, nothing is done with them, therefore there are so many of them. And, indeed, there are many emigrants from Africa, but not as much as in France and other countries, because there is simply a crisis here. In Spain, on the contrary, emigrants have sailed now, not only now, today, but these last years, 2015, 2014, 2013. Why? Because there is no work here. Where do emigrants go? Let's say there are now a lot of emigrants in America, and it has always been. Because they have an economic upturn there, they have work there.

In Spain? - There is no work here, that is, I am often asked the question: “I am a programmer, I am a teacher, I am a hairdresser, I am a manicure master. Can I find a job? " I always say that it is very difficult. Hard. Nobody talks about the Blue Card at all. You need to have the brains of Einstein in order to get the Blue Card. I don't know a single person who has received a Blue Card. And I haven't even heard the stories on the internet, you know? Even through friends I can give an example. I arrived, received a work card and stayed for work. There are many other stories about the entire area, but if you have such a story, please write to me in the comments.

"When is the best time to come to Spain on vacation" For me personally - June and September. It doesn't matter where: Barcelona or Alicante, it's still warm, and you can swim. And it's just much softer. Why? You can walk at night, and you will not be suffocated by the heat. Both in Barcelona and in Alicante it will always be very hot at night. It's hard to sleep. The Russians think it's hot, well, okay. At night it will be cool like, say, in Kemerovo. It's still cool at night and you sleep well under the coolness. And here it is not. You think: "My God," you turned on the air conditioner, it blows on you, so you can still catch a cold. For those who are not accustomed to air conditioners, I got used to the first six months, this cold air of 18 degrees, if you go on a bus or sit in class. Those who studied in Alicante will understand me, because they turn on the air conditioner at 18 degrees. And in August you need to bring a blouse with you in order to cover your shoulders, so you sit and freeze. Because the Spaniards are just used to it. For them, this is a normal temperature, cold. And they don't get sick from it, they don't get cold from the air conditioner. At first I had a cold for six months, and then the body gets used to it. For me best season- these are June and September. If you really love the heat, and you can easily endure it, the whole summer is for you. July, August - welcome.

“There is something similar in Spain individual entrepreneur? " Yes, there is. Now I was told, literally 2 weeks ago, they pay about 330 euros. Who knows the exact numbers, write me in the comments. Because something like this. It used to be 250, and now it grows every time. And this is the fact that in Russia 3,500 or 4,000 rubles, and in Spain it is more.

“Dash, please advise. I teach Spanish, the city is small, there are no Spanish speakers. There is no one to practice with. Passed Polyglot, Karino, Shipilovs. I don’t know what to do next. Tell me. How to learn further? I can't teach courses on Skype, because everything is expensive ”I think what you need in InterPals, because if you have a desire, you will write 40 messages every day, and you will still find someone with whom you can practice ... And let's say you wrote and are waiting for an answer. Do not wait. Don't just sit there, start writing letters. Yes, you have a lot of mistakes, nobody checks you. But all the same, you will write, and look at the words in the dictionary that you need. Yes, you will make a lot of mistakes at first, don't worry. The Russians are like that, you need everything to be "perfecto", so that not one mistake is made. And what article to put? Come on with these articles. It's just that the article is such an anchor that you drop or "But what better way to say, what if they don't understand me?" Guys, they will understand you all the same. But you need to start, not to be afraid to make mistakes. All teachers say, "Don't be afraid to make mistakes." This is such a washed-out phrase that it sounds like a stupid one. But, really, it's true. Just don't be afraid to make mistakes, and make mistakes again. And then, already when you will communicate with several people, it will work out.

"Do the Spaniards have everyday traditions or habits that differ from the Russians?" It's a difficult question, because there are many things to say, let's say. Floors, people in Spain do not walk barefoot at home, people walk in shoes. How are shoes? Let's say I come from the street and I change my shoes. That is, I do not wear street shoes. Yes, I can walk to some room, it's not scary. Then I change into more comfortable shoes. This is the tradition. If they eat, let's say I had such a tradition in Russia. For breakfast we can eat mashed potatoes with a cutlet, and nothing. Here, specifically: for breakfast we have one dish, for lunch another and for dinner a third. They cook constantly. It's a joy for them. They do not cook any dishes for 3 hours, they make a salad. They are preparing something simpler.

We decided to continue and make a whole series of similar photo projects. This time the author of "My Planet" walked around Barcelona and asked the people of Spain the same question: "Name three associations that come to your mind when you hear about Russia and Russians."

Matryoshka, Russian constructivism, Kandinsky. Matryoshka for me is the embodiment of femininity and romanticism, Russian constructivism is associated with freedom of expression, and Kandinsky was the first artist I liked when I studied art. (Elizabeth Urpi Rafols, 29, fashion and hat designer)

- Snow, mountains and greatness. I have been to Russia three times, and I was amazed at how much snow there was, I had never seen so much. In Barcelona, ​​I have to deal with Russians. It can be difficult to understand their emotions. Although, when you spend time with them, you see that they are very honest and funny people. (Fermi Marco, 48, trekking instructor)

- Luxury, Russian salad, a lot of people. The Russians I know care a lot about their image, appearance, they like to showcase their elite and be different from the rest. (Kilian Garrigos, 24, hair stylist)

- Works of art in the subway, the transition from communism to capitalism, language. The Russian language seems to me very melodic, only you speak softly. (Esperanza Pardo Borrell, 54, dentist)

- Communism. Orthodox Church. Birch groves under the snow against the backdrop of immense landscapes. Earlier we didn’t really use the word “Russia”, we said “ Soviet Union", Which we associated with communism, red stars, army and military might. (Jordi Searhs, 49, Director of the Photo Archive)

- A giant country, Moscow and its architectural masterpieces, cold. Even though I've never been to Russia, I watched documentaries about your country and read about its scale. They are really amazing! (Pilar Castro Valdivia, 50, Real Estate Consultant)

- Contrasts, spirituality, beauty. My favorite composer is Rachmaninov, I can now sit down and play his preludes. With Mussorgsky we need to train more. As for Russian women, unlike Western women, they are more traditional, very feminine and know how to listen. (Jofre Horta Antoniou, 39 years old, composer and pianist)

- Seriousness, responsibility, phonetics. I worked with the Russians. The first impression of them is very serious. It is not known, because of shyness or for some other reason ... But in business they demonstrate amazing responsibility. I like it. (Javier Vidal, 42, bookseller, journalist)

- Good people, a country where I would like to go someday, business. Yes, I'm telling the truth, Russian customers often come to our bar. They are always polite, decent, and there are no problems with them. Russians are very good people... And it's good for Spain that they come here. (Pedro Manuel Aguayo, 64, waiter)

Extremes, communism, money-soul. I have always liked Russian literature for its spiritual depth. And when I think about Russians, I wonder how they mix this - soul and money. If we talk about students from Russia, then their main difference is that they always know what they want. (Sofia Pariente Buson, 40, director of a language school)

Vodka, caviar, Ural mountains as the border between Europe and Asia. I had to drink vodka at parties, in the company of Russian friends, so I usually don't. And caviar has always been associated with luxury and with the rich from Russia, of whom there are now enough. (Joel Raventos, 38, online store owner)

- Tea, individuality, friendship. If Russians have anything special, it is their individuality. Why tea? So I just got addicted to it in Russia and now I drink it every day. (Merichelle Margens, 31, translator, secretary)

- "Mikhail Strogoff: The Tsar's Courier", the Kremlin, pointe shoes. It's funny, but the first thing that comes to mind is a novel by Jules Verne. Deserted steppe on which gallops a man dressed as a Cossack. Blizzards or other disasters will not interfere with the fulfillment of his mission. I was fascinated by this book as a child. (Imma Muñoz, 41, journalist)

- Travel, Moscow - Petersburg, metro. I have been to Moscow and St. Petersburg. Oh, I'm lost there! I left the hotel in the morning, it's beautiful around: a river, monuments. I look and don't know where I am. I go to another hotel, I say: "Call the police." They say: "Don't go to the police, do you have any documents?" In general, they told me where to go. (Rosa Bardina Noguera, 77 years old, pensioner)

- Culture, pride, immensity. Russians have always defended their independence and worldview, even under the most unfavorable circumstances. It is very kind and cultured people that can be proud of its history and traditions. (Antonio Rey, 44, programmer)

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Today a friend wrote a post that in Bulgaria they treat Russians badly and I have a similar post, but about Spain. For 5 years we have been flying to Spain from year to year. It happens several times a year. But it was only this summer that I first encountered a prejudice against Russians. Biased or it may be different, but there is something. And it happens in restaurants. We are Russian people, and maybe not only Russians, we are used to the fact that when you come to a good restaurant, there is the appropriate service. The restaurant employees do everything to make the client satisfied and come back again and again.

It is the same in shops, salons, etc. I'm talking about good places who value their reputation. Here the situation is different. Shops, yes, I don’t know salons, but restaurants are quiet horror🙈. Not all, but there is a direct explicit hostility from the moment you sat down at the table. There was even a case in Barcelona: I ordered Carpacho, and there were two to choose from on the menu. I asked for the one without pepper. I made a special emphasis that I want not spicy and he still brought it with pepper. ”And the pepper was under the meat for some reason, not on top, as usual, but under. I don’t know, maybe this is such a presentation😁 I called him and asked him to change, he pretended that he was in shock, took the plate on his nerves and did not serve us anymore😭😂. When we were just discussing the order, the dialogue was already stretched, right from the first second. The waiter spoke as if he was doing us a favor and if it were not for my husband, I would have already told him how badly he meets us. As a result, a nice smiling girl took our table.
But one day I still could not restrain myself and had a hard fight with service personnel restaurant. Here is how it was. We like one restaurant because the food is very tasty there. And we went there periodically, and even Tosin and others celebrated there. So the disgruntled faces of the waiters were visible to the naked eye, even at the entrance to the restaurant. But we tried to defuse the situation, smiled and in the end we always got a good dialogue. Now I’ll try to explain how they looked, it was written on their faces Why did you pin up ?! We don't want to workooooooooooooooooooooooooooright! We want to sit, fold our legs and arms and drink sangritushka.

The Spaniards ... And we wouldn't go if it wasn't for their delicious cuisine. Before Tosin's birthday, Miron drove into a restaurant, brought balloons, asked to hang them and ordered a table. They hesitated for a long time, not because of the balls, but in general that we want to celebrate with them others. They said that they would have a lot of people and some other nonsense. As a result, no one was there except for us And our balls, by the way, were not there either, well, okay, I didn't want to spoil my mood. But they served us that day with smiles on their faces. They got a good tip and in general we always left them a good tip. Some time has passed, my husband and I are going to dinner with them, we go in and again these disgruntled mines😡 We sit and choose food, and Tosya sits and is capricious, my husband and I do not pay attention, we read the menu😠. We are alone in the restaurant☝🏻️. A waitress approaches with a mine, I begin to ask her what kind of fish it is, but this is what kind of fish it is, and how it is cooked, etc., Tosya whimpers in unison with me, the waitress nervously pulls out two menus from under my nose and in my mid-sentence goes away👀😡👿. And it was pi ... ts. I exploded! Yeahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooogonna! That scraps flew through the back streets😂. For a long time I put up with their muzzles (you can't put it another way!) I followed her inside, she quickly washed off. I began to torture the barmaid, they say, where is the leader, she is a fool, supposedly I do not understand you. I tell the Boss, call me, the manager, she knows these words for sure. In general, I was so indignant that a girl who speaks excellent Russian, a restaurant worker, came and asked what had happened. I told her the whole situation, she 👀, and began to apologize, asking how the conflict could be resolved, but my husband said that we were leaving. And we left. And the duck there is still excellent, I still remember its taste)))

But this case opened our eyes a little☝🏻️. We came to the restaurant for breakfast, as always ordered everything, we are sitting waiting. When they began to bring us food, we began to remember that we needed more bread, salt, ketchup, and all this in turn. Well, like they drove the waiter, they don't like it. Fortunately, the uncle was caught with humor, says Stop, stop, where in a hurry. You Russians are always in a hurry somewhere. And then we realized why restaurants don't like us. Time is money in Russia. With a heavy workload of the restaurant, the waiter (s) will always warn that the order is expected a little more than usual. While you are having dinner, they will come up and clean the plates a million times, clean the tablecloth, ask if everything is fine, maybe something else. Servis In Spain, after the food has been brought to you, you can forget about the waiter 😂 And he will bring you the coffee that you ordered only after he smokes a cigarette and has a chat with a colleague. I'm not saying that this is the case everywhere, but this is a common case.
Although there is an idea that the attitude towards Russians has changed for other reasons. In any case, there are much more pleasant people. And those negativists do not spoil the general impression of Spain in the least. All smiles and kindness! 💐💐💐

If people really far from it, then their relationship is not affected by the life of politicians, downed bombers, Putin, Obama, Smith, Chen, etc.

Today I read an excellent one, and it perfectly formulates the essence of the confrontation between the majority (those very "distant" people) with the minority in Russia, which, by the way, is often asked by the Spaniards - they say, why is everything here as it is:

- When such serious decisions are made, should the authorities hold consultations with business representatives? After all, it overnight excludes a certain category of its citizens from the economic interest.

Strictly speaking, the authorities owe nothing to anyone, except for the observance of the laws. If the government does what the majority does not want, it is re-elected. There are 125 million population in Russia, the current government in more or lesser degree supporters, and a certain number of marginals, whose contribution to the country's budget is minimal, the influence on the majority of the population is minimal, and the demand for taking their opinion into account is disproportionately high. Why would the Kremlin consult with them? Are they making a budget? No, our budget revenues are 90% correlated with the price of oil and consist mainly of taxes on minerals, import duties and VAT. What else are they doing? Improving the country's security? No, they, on the contrary, want globalization, their interests go beyond the borders of the country, they can easily change it for another. These are people who pose a threat to the elite, which has built a rental state, has created an effective combination of the market and feudal relations and really takes into account the needs of the majority of the country's population. Not those that the "demanding minority" imposes on them, but those that the majority feel, that is, the demand for stability (albeit at a very low level), for unity with the authorities, for a sense of pride in the Motherland, for increasing self-esteem by humiliating "strangers. ".

The minority today says: the behavior of the majority of the population, coupled with Russian authorities it is suicidal for the country, the economy is slowly collapsing, in five years we will have no reserves, and in 10 - the ability to maintain statehood. But the majority thinks that the confrontation with the US and the EU, sanctions against Turkey are measures that will affect only the aggressive minority, that it is their mercantilism that makes them protest. Who will consult with whom? It's not customary to ask rats on our ship.

read - no one guarantees that Spain will not be next in line (in terms of tourist flow and imports). what will be the attitude towards us then - it is not yet clear to me personally.

I wonder if anyone can describe the behavior of such a conservative majority in Spain?

(given that many Spaniards also did not leave the country, do not speak English, clannishness is strong, and they also dislike foreigners - to which we belong). Are these people using the word Guiri, which has a rather negative connotation? I hear it from time to time in Madrid (almost none in Barcelona)

Surely every person is interested in knowing what others think about him, but if you think big, then the whole nation has no less interest and desire to find out what people of other countries and continents think about it. The author of the project walked around Barcelona, ​​Spain, filmed its inhabitants and at the same time asked them the same question: "What are the first three words, phrases or associations that come to your mind when you hear about Russia and Russians?" Some of the answers were predictable, while others were quite unexpected and atypical.

- Matryoshka, Russian constructivism, Kandinsky

Matryoshka for me is the embodiment of femininity and romanticism, Russian constructivism is associated with freedom of expression, and Kandinsky was the first artist I liked when I studied art. (Elizabeth Urpi Rafols, 29, fashion and hat designer)

- Snow, mountains and greatness

I have been to Russia three times, and I was amazed at how much snow there was, I had never seen so much. In Barcelona, ​​I have to deal with Russians. It can be difficult to understand their emotions. Although, when you spend time with them, you see that they are very honest and funny people. (Fermi Marco, 48, trekking instructor)

- Luxury, Russian salad, a lot of people

The Russians I know care a lot about their image, appearance, they like to demonstrate their belonging to the elite and be different from the rest. (Kilian Garrigos, 24, hair stylist)

- Works of art in the subway, the transition from communism to capitalism, language

The Russian language seems to me very melodic, only you speak softly. (Esperanza Pardo Borrell, 54, dentist)

- Communism, the Orthodox Church, birch groves under the snow against the backdrop of immense landscapes

Previously, we did not really use the word "Russia", we said "Soviet Union", which we associated with communism, red stars, the army and military might. (Jordi Searhs, 49, Director of the Photo Archive)

- A giant country, Moscow and its architectural masterpieces, cold

Although I have never been to Russia, I have watched documentaries about your country and read about its scale. They are really amazing! (Pilar Castro Valdivia, 50, Real Estate Consultant)

- Contrasts, spirituality, beauty

My favorite composer is Rachmaninov, I can now sit down and play his preludes. With Mussorgsky we need to train more. As for Russian women, unlike Western women, they are more traditional, very feminine and know how to listen. (Jofre Horta Antoniou, 39 years old, composer and pianist)

- Seriousness, responsibility, phonetics

I worked with the Russians. The first impression of them is very serious. It is not known, because of shyness or for some other reason ... But in business they demonstrate amazing responsibility. I like it. (Javier Vidal, 42, bookseller, journalist)

- Nice people, a country where I would like to go someday, business

Yes, I'm telling the truth, Russian customers often come to our bar. They are always polite, decent, and there are no problems with them. Russians are very good people. And it's good for Spain that they come here. (Pedro Manuel Aguayo, 64, waiter)

- Extremes, communism, money-soul

I have always liked Russian literature for its spiritual depth. And when I think about Russians, I wonder how they mix this - soul and money. If we talk about students from Russia, then their main difference is that they always know what they want. (Sofia Pariente Buson, 40, director of a language school)

- Vodka, caviar, the Ural Mountains as the border between Europe and Asia

I had to drink vodka at parties, in the company of Russian friends, so I usually don't. And caviar has always been associated with luxury and with the rich from Russia, of whom there are now enough. (Joel Raventos, 38, online store owner)

- Tea, personality, friendship

If Russians have anything special, it is their individuality. Why tea? So I just got addicted to it in Russia and now I drink it every day. (Merichelle Margens, 31, translator, secretary)

- "Mikhail Strogoff: The Tsar's Courier", Kremlin, pointe shoes

It's funny, but the first thing that comes to mind is a novel by Jules Verne. Deserted steppe on which gallops a man dressed as a Cossack. Blizzards or other disasters will not interfere with the fulfillment of his mission. I was fascinated by this book as a child. (Imma Muñoz, 41, journalist)

- Travel, Moscow - Petersburg, metro

I have been to Moscow and St. Petersburg. Oh, I'm lost there! I left the hotel in the morning, it's beautiful around: a river, monuments. I look and don't know where I am. I go to another hotel, I say: "Call the police." They say: "Don't go to the police, do you have any documents?" In general, they told me where to go. (Rosa Bardina Noguera, 77 years old, pensioner)

- Culture, pride, immensity

Russians have always defended their independence and worldview, even under the most unfavorable circumstances. They are a very kind and cultured people who can be proud of their history and traditions. (Antonio Rey, 44, programmer)

- Chekhov, Stanislavsky, pronunciation

As a child, I could not pronounce "erre" correctly, my tongue did not vibrate, and my friend said that I looked like a Russian, they say, they have the same pronunciation. I myself am generally from Barranquilla, from Colombia. Do you know how funny the surname Stanislavsky is pronounced there? Eshtanishashki. (Gerson Payares Figueroa, 28, actor)